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Canadian Availability

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:54 pm
by PSWilson
Canada does not seem to be represented here - or am I wrong?

Now it could be that the reason is: no official availability and pricing from Hyundai Canada

Car reviews, auto show presence, dealership activities such as distributing brochures and getting charging stations installed, providing test drives ...

Lots of rumours but I cannot find many facts - anyone else?

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:54 am
by PluggedIn
There are many countries discussed in the threads of this forum - U.S., Canada, South Korea, India, UK, Netherlands, etc. I think a number of the Canadian comments have come from discussions with individual dealers.

One of the key discussions regarding Canada has been the incentives offered by Ontario, Quebec and BC, but not by any other provinces!

We're all waiting for the appearance of the Ioniq and wondering when it will happen. The Hyundai Canada page indicates that the Electric Plus will be coming in late 2017, but hopefully the other models will come soon!

If you scroll to the bottom of this page, you can sign up to receive email updates with the latest news on the Ioniq:

https://hyundaiautocanada.com/ioniq/


Some other articles with reviews, etc:

Test drives in Kelowna:
http://www.wheels.ca/car-reviews/ioniq-charges-up-hyundais-ev-future/

First drive:
http://driving.ca/hyundai/reviews/road-test/first-drive-2017-hyundai-ioniq

http://www.canadianautoreview.ca/reviews/2017-hyundai-ioniq.html

http://www.autotrader.ca/expert/20170220/first-drive-2017-hyundai-ioniq-hybrid-and-ioniq-electric/

A dealer in Woodstock announced the release date as March, 2017, but it hasn't happened yet...
http://www.woodstockhyundai.com/2017-hyundai-ioniq-in-ontario/

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:27 pm
by PSWilson
I've been in contact with local Ottawa dealerships and they are hoping for a pricing and availability announcement within 2 weeks. Hybrids and BEV models to be here within a month - yes, the plugin hybrid is not due till the fall (if you can believe any of this).

One of the few encouraging signs for me has been local dealerships installing charging stations even though they have no cars yet.

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:00 am
by goncalo
Last week after calling Hyundai Canada 2 days in a row, may seems to be the next target for the release in Canada!!

One of the most implicated dealer of electric car for Hyundai in Quebec, told me that from now on, he will not say a word on possible release date since Hyundai district manager is always telling him things that does not happen!!!

I think Hyundai is doing a perfect job on how to kill buzz and hype around a car just like if they don't want to have sales!!!!

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:34 am
by PluggedIn
Thanks for your comments on what you've found out. I agree that their unreliable release dates really puts a damper on the excitement! Hopefully they will be available in Canada by summer!

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:12 pm
by PSWilson
PluggedIn wrote:Thanks for your comments on what you've found out. I agree that their unreliable release dates really puts a damper on the excitement! Hopefully they will be available in Canada by summer!

Damper? This is not about excitement rather it is about losing sales and trust in Hyundai/dealerships

You'd think companies would realize that authentic honesty and full disclosure is much better than what they've done in the past of carefully managed announcements, rollouts and silence when something is amiss.

You lose more by silence than being forthcoming on what is happening .. And something is clearly happening with all the delays.

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:24 pm
by goncalo
I agree!

If i kow the truth and I know the car will be available in let's say 2 months, I decide to wait for these 2 months!!
If they keep silence on an official date, i might just forget about this car a go for a different one since I don't know when!!

They cold at least release pricing! We, consummers will have something to discuss and check if at least we can afford. Now we don't know nothing!
No dates, no price.

If we do a poll on how we think hyundai is handling the Ioniq, I dont' think Hyundai will be happy about the results!!!
For a company, the image if the most important thing.

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:22 pm
by SparkE
PSWilson wrote:Damper? This is not about excitement rather it is about losing sales and trust in Hyundai/dealerships

You'd think companies would realize that authentic honesty and full disclosure is much better than what they've done in the past of carefully managed announcements, rollouts and silence when something is amiss.

You lose more by silence than being forthcoming on what is happening .. And something is clearly happening with all the delays.


I have to agree with the bolded. You can't really blame the dealership too much for bad info from Hyundai - they are (generally) independently owned and operated (and even if they aren't, the manager really isn't 'in the loop' on corporate policy!). But Hyundai is really blowing introduction of this vehicle! It has been available for almost a year in Korea, so all of the production bugs SHOULD have been ironed out by now. There should be no *production* reason why they aren't rolling out the vehicle.

The only reason I can think of is that it is meant to be a 'compliance vehicle' - a vehicle specifically designed to meet 'clean air' standards/laws, allowing them to meet the minimum CARB requirements for their fleet, sold at or near a loss, so that they can sell the expensive, low-mileage, polluting SUVs and other gas/diesel vehicles. The cars are wonderfully inexpensive (based on announced prices in the U.S.) - several $1000 cheaper than the equivalent Prius, and/or with better accessories in a particular trim level.

Personally, I am very, VERY tempted by the Ioniq PHEV (plug-in). I would buy it as the replacement for my 12-year-old gas "non-totally-electric" (my family's other car is 100% electric). The older car is PZEV (very, very low emissions) but replacing it with a car that would normally run electric (30 miles a day, even more after a mid-day plug-in) would be even better.
Hyundai announced that the Ioniq would only be *promoted* (I think they mean a vehicle available at the dealer for a test drive or on-lot for immediate purchase) in a small number of states (in the U.S.). And the all-electric would be promoted in an even smaller # of states. The vehicle would be SOLD across the entire U.S., but only via ordering. That will probably be true in Canada as well - mostly promoted in those provinces that have shown a higher # of sales of alt-energy vehicles.

At any rate, it almost seems that Hyundai is trying to squash sales of their new vehicle before it is even in the market! I would probably immediately buy a brand-new Ioniq PHEV if it had a 45+ miles all-electric range. (I am generally more of a 'wait and see, then buy used' kind of guy for car purchases.) So I will wait by the sidelines and see how it turns out, I guess. I will be replacing my electric in 2+ years. A used Ioniq electric (125 miles range) would be great, especially if prices for used BEVs continue to drop due to arrival of more and more 170+ miles range electrics from the different manufacturers : Chevy, Tesla, Nissan, Hyundai, and others. (Hyundai has already announced an Ionic EV with greater range to be introduced for 2018 model year.)

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:38 am
by PluggedIn
It's hard to understand why they are being so vague... I think there is some excitement generated by the good reviews, great features, low prices... so why wouldn't they capitalize on that?!

Re: Canadian Availability

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:50 am
by goncalo
PluggedIn wrote:It's hard to understand why they are being so vague... I think there is some excitement generated by the good reviews, great features, low prices... so why wouldn't they capitalize on that?!


For me, the next question will be if I wait or no for the 2018 model.
If the car comes out like they say in may, well I think we are pretty late in the year to bring out an 2017 model. But then again, will the 2018 model be release around may 2018 or by the end of 2017??

Will the ioniq 2017 be able to upgrade battery?

So much question and no one can answer these important questions!!

Hyundai is taking people for fools and looks like they don't care about consumers by not saying a word!!